Old School Music Is Always A Vibe

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>> You didn't use a nutcase.

>> You didn't used to coach, Joe. Are you

crazy?

>> I'm telling you, you're nuts.

>> Huh?

>> You pat rally this?

>> No. This nigga's PAT NOBODY. THIS

NIGGA'S PING.

>> I'm petting nobody you talking about,

bro. What

>> is that?

>> Yo, you are crazy, son. This Yo, this

guy is Yo, everything does not re the

moon, stars, and sun don't revolve

around you, my [ __ ]

>> You feel me?

>> We're filming. Oh, yeah.

>> Why do you think that? Why do you think

that the moon, sun, and star? Why do you

think I'm as yet? Because I'm saying you

learned something from me.

>> I don't. You take credit for everything.

I did not learn that from you. I didn't

learn how to be charismatic in hospital

from you.

>> Please don't put words in my mouth cuz

you are charismatic on your own.

>> Yo, those are

>> that is not what I'm talking about.

>> The traits that we are talking about

>> audience we talking about setting up the

play

cuz I don't want to just talk without

talking about hey if you know you know

we talking about setting up the play.

What I'm saying is my friend we ain't

going to stay on this cuz I want to

laughing at this [ __ ] about something.

I don't even know how we got here.

>> How I get in this? I don't even

remember.

>> So, listen to this. This is what we

talking about. So, if if if

>> cuz the funny thing is I don't holler,

right? But I'll tell somebody else, "Yo,

you should

>> see I ain't got time for the rig and

roll today. I want I want to say what

the fuck."

>> Look, I'll tell somebody like, "Yo, dog,

you could do this, this, this, and

this."

>> Man, something nice. SOMETHING NICE is

in that mother's

Let's get Let's get to it. Something

nice is in that Neman. And I told Joe he

wouldn't like the

>> in one of the New Jersey malls,

>> right?

>> And he says, "But then it's going to

look like I went there specifically for

>> That's not what I said. I said if you

because I'm too in love."

>> Oh.

>> So what I said was if you go

>> Yo, stop playing tough. Yo, now we

going. You said exactly what I said.

>> GET TO IT. GET TO IT.

>> SAID BECAUSE I I'm a wordssmith. I said

if you, not you, but in general, go to

that Neman's at that mall, it will be

painfully ob obvious you are there to

speak to a young lady.

>> That's not true.

>> I'm just saying what I said.

>> Oh yeah.

>> And I told you what you said. That is

what And I said that's not true because

you know people and my boy set the play

up for me.

>> Yeah. I said, "Yo, you know people

there." So you

>> And not for me, but to me,

>> yo, you know somebody there or a person

knows somebody there. You coming to say

hi to your person. It's like if a bad

chick work at a restaurant and you know

somebody else at the restaurant, your

goal might be to go see the bad chick

and let her see you, but I'm coming to

see my barks that just bartends.

>> Sure. Sure.

>> And I just so happen to be there on a

Thursday night when shorty is working.

>> What a kicky thing.

I learned that from him. And then I'm

saying I was proud of my man for drawing

that play so fast because when we used

to hang out and it would be time to run

a play, he would be dumbfounded looking

stupid in the face like, "Yo, how are we

going to how we going to bag that girl

from her dude?"

>> I don't believe that. Not for me. Yo, me

is used to be out trying to miss your

girl before all of that [ __ ] It should

be like, "Yo, how are we going to do

that? Her dude is right there the whole

night." I think

her man is right there all night long

and I used to set up the play. So to

hear him set up plays now I'm like my

boy is the Eric Spiter. This [ __ ] is

Kevin Booker.

>> This [ __ ] is you know like we don't

know though. It's cool. You wouldn't

know.

>> He survived on that cuz nobody was there

but me and him and I got such a horrible

reputation. THAT'S GOT TO STOP

HAPPENING.

>> Listen to this.

>> My horrible reputation. I set up a play

for Joe. If Joe is vocal and goes at the

target [ __ ]

>> I don't have to set up a play for Joe.

>> I don't He don't need no He can iso.

>> I'm not talking about ish. You keep

trying iso.

>> He keep trying to confuse the audience.

We not talking about your anyone's

ability to speak to a girl.

>> No,

>> that's not what's in question.

>> So, what you talking about?

>> We talking about when the situation

calls for a play to be ran. That's what

we talking about. IT'S NOT THE SAME.

>> DUDE, 23.

>> ANYBODY COULD TALK TO A GIRL. YEAH,

that's not true.

>> All right, cool. But we talking about

running a play when it's when it's a

little more complicated.

>> He old school. He know the old bumping

switch. He bump Excuse me. P me. Like we

don't We know your tricks, bro.

>> We know your tricks.

>> Old bumping.

>> And we do know his tricks.

>> I don't know.

>> We know his tricks. That's my man. I It

ain't queen [ __ ] You see you you try

>> is that a bump and switch.

>> Bump and switch. You bump somebody and

switch. I I got you. You try to

>> pick and roll. Thank you.

>> You try to act like you are this quiet

guy with so much confidence in the

world. I don't talk to That's your play.

The I don't talk to people, but I'm full

of confidence is your play.

>> We see right through it, man.

>> And # the restaurant.

>> That's it. We know your trick.

>> You going to go read the hashtag of the

restaurant,

>> huh?

>> IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

>> It don't.

>> We got you.

>> It does. It does. Is it possible you

just really quiet? I mean, and don't

don't like the holler.

>> Then if you tell him he don't get no

[ __ ] how he act? Yo, you don't get no

girls cuz you quiet, [ __ ] You scared

the girls. You saw he GETS STUPID

DEFENSE, [ __ ] WHAT?

>> YO, HOW DID I SMASH A [ __ ] HE WENT

AFTER THE BEIGE. HE DID THAT OVER HIS

HEAD. PULL IT UP.

>> Listen to this.

Yo, you're equating somebody being quiet

to somebody scared of girls. They don't

correlate. [ __ ] No, it's my go. That

was my go. You call me You call me

[ __ ]

It's my goal. It's my goal. See, me not

being me being bashful or shy don't

correlate to me not getting no [ __ ]

>> How do you get because they talk to you,

right?

>> WHATEVER THE GAME,

>> YOUR GAME IS TO STAY QUIET with

confidence. They don't have to come to

you and talk to them. That's not game

because a lot of women DON'T LIKE THAT.

THAT BACKFIRES more than you think it

works. A lot of girls don't like shy.

You 30 something years old and you still

shy. Sit your dumb ass down. IT DON'T

WORK. I DON'T PUMP THAT. THAT'S HOW YOU

HOW YOU WHAT YOU PUMP.

OH, we getting great.

>> I'm saying, yo, how did you learn to bag

girls when they went they man?

>> Don't do that.

>> Oh, he passed the number on the paper.

He write it on the paper.

>> There was that one time though, right?

Didn't they tell the story?

>> I didn't bag that girl. I knew the girl

before the [ __ ] came to the house. I

WAS ALREADY MY CHICK.

>> OH, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT STORY.

I was talking ABOUT THE RESTAURANT.

>> I WAS TALKING ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE

JOINT.

THIS IS AND THIS IS THE REASON I got mad

at that because I didn't bag that girl.

I didn't say more than five words to

that girl, but how it was presented to

them made it seem like I was shooting at

this [ __ ] girlfriend. And that's why I

got mad. We just having fun. We just

having fun. I'm chilling. Don't get

serious. Stop doing If I did something

wrong in that situation, I apologize,

[ __ ] I'm We here for a good time

today. My bad. Yo, I'm sorry if I

painted this [ __ ] like he was trying to

bag that girl he was trying to bag.

cuz I should have held it down. I should

have kept the beat. So, he's right. So,

I apologize, man. I see. I didn't say

nothing to that.

>> I can see I CAN SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

WE CERTAINLY ALL WE SAY ALL WELL,

LISTEN. ALL I'M SAYING is Joe Button

podcast male fans out there, if you with

your girl and you SEE HER,

>> PULL IT OUT

>> AND SHE'S a fan of the show.

>> Be safe.

>> DO NOT RUN UP TO him and say,

>> "Oh man,

>> hey, my girl is here and she's a huge

fan of the show. Would you like to

suicide?" It's a suicide boy. Don't do

that.

Serving her right up.

>> Yeah, don't do that. Don't dare to be

it'll be a different mean greet in

Brooklyn shop.

>> Joe but Joe Button podcast fans.

>> If y'all out and about and your girl is

over 175 and thick in the thighs, don't

go to the bathroom.

>> WHEN YOU COME BACK WHEN YOU WHEN YOU

COME BACK to your table, it just might

be these magical drinks and a steak on

your table.

>> Oh [ __ ] YOU

meal

different.

The [ __ ] pre-ordered the [ __ ]

STEAK. YOU SHOULD ALREADY BE READY.

You know the

>> little gold little gold drippings on

your steak. [ __ ] can't even afford a

tomahawk. You just got the steak on your

table. It's called Native Americans.

>> This is that Don P stuff that THEY TALK

ABOUT.

HEY YO, LISTEN TO WATCH is watch that

new Desi Banks get skit [ __ ] with like

that's how ish is you know what I'm

saying if your girl get around him

>> she may get a little bit if things may

get a little craziest part has never

seen me outside who

>> you [ __ ] you ain't no owl you too fat

to sit on a perch

I lost weight after you seen me outside

looking good

>> let me ask you look amazing you've never

seen me outside

>> so much thank you Mark thank you

everybody but my my thing with you is

that Listen, stop acting like you got it

like that. I don't have that. And then

when you go home, wifey checking you.

That's what it is. That's what all this

clean up is, [ __ ] HEY YO, JAN, COME

[ __ ] WE KNOW, [ __ ] GIVE HIM THE

BROOM, CORY. GIVE HIM THE MOP. WHAT YOU

WANT? SO CLOSE. STOP ACTING LIKE YOU GOT

IT LIKE THAT. FROM NOW ON, don't talk

that big dick, [ __ ]

>> WE SOFT. YOU SCARED OF HIS DICK. [ __ ]

up, [ __ ] EVERY TWO.

>> NO. NO. NO. NO. BUT THE FUNNY PART, THIS

[ __ ] JUST CED A PLEA ABOUT YO DOG. YO,

YO YO.

5 MINUTES AGO SAT HERE AND SAID, "YO,

DOG, SOMEBODY SUBSCRIBES TO PATREON NOW.

Y

COME ON.

HOW MANY JOBS YOU GOT IN MARYLAND,

[ __ ] ONE. THAT'S not work anymore,

[ __ ] I have one. You talk about,

[ __ ] The house is fixed already,

[ __ ] It's not FIXED. YOU HAD A [ __ ]

SPEND A NIGHT THERE, [ __ ] 4 MONTHS.

IT'S FIXED, [ __ ] IT'S NOT DONE THOUGH.

>> WHAT YOU GOING BACK OUT THERE, DUDE?

>> The house should be done.

>> It's done. Y

>> It's done, man.

>> Two [ __ ] that don't know nothing about

house. Should be done.

>> Okay.

>> How much content you shooting?

>> You in a NEW BUSINESS. OTHER CONTENT,

>> BOY.

>> I mean,

>> I You don't want to play this game with

me boy?

>> Bro, has the strap on him today,

bro? Why you Why you whing IT TODAY?

>> I'M NOT. THIS [ __ ]

FIGHTING BACK.

>> HE HE IS FIGHTING BACK. HE HE IS

FIGHTING BACK.

>> ALL THESE [ __ ] YO, BRO.

>> He has a water gun. He don't run his

house.

>> They're going to start bowling in a

minute.

>> Flip. I I bet you won't say I run my

house.

>> I RUN MY HOUSE

>> UNEQUIVOCABLY, [ __ ] I RUN MY HOUSE,

HOLE, [ __ ] BUT YOU SAT HERE AND

STARTED I BRO YOU GOOD. You got it.

>> Release that footage. You'll be UP UNDER

THE BED.

>> RELEASE IT. [ __ ]

DIRTY. You got it. I don't do no trick.

>> This [ __ ] on speed dial. [ __ ] you got

to check in during the lunch break.

During the chicken nuggets break, during

the mother bathroom break. I don't check

in. [ __ ] SHE KNOW WHAT IT IS.

>> UNEQUIVOCALLY,

>> [ __ ] I SPEAK. I SPEAK, [ __ ] SITTING

HERE SPEAKING. I don't know what the

[ __ ] he's doing. HE I GET TOO. I AIN'T

JOKING ON YOU. I GET YOU, TOO.

>> I DON'T WANT NO SMOKE. I'm mind my own

business

>> cuz you

>> what? Go ahead.

>> But before you shoot, he really was

shooting at this.

>> Yeah, he was. Was it?

>> All right. Yeah, he was

>> [ __ ] Put a B in on the

>> I put the P in the word.

>> He was just talking fast. No. Yeah. So,

but I know you want to shoot at Mark.

Anyway, I know you want to shoot and I

like I wasn't shooting at you. Oh, okay.

Okay. Okay.

>> But I know you want to shoot at Mark.

NO, let me tell you what he does. Yo,

the will be just silently researching

some [ __ ] and he'll get something that

he think is just a home run and he'll

put in his pocket

>> and if you come in and be like, "Hey,

Flip, what's up?" If yo, what's up? A

little too strong. Yo, [ __ ] I'm ready.

What's up? I got THIS IN MY POCKET. I'LL

HEAR YOU OUT. LIKE, YO, YOU JUST BE

LOOKING. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah.

>> I think it's important though in closing

for me cuz we have to talk the show. I

think it's important and I do respect

the fact that you are the man in your

household. I just know that sometimes

Get back on.

>> Let me just finish. I just know

sometimes you come in with different

tones and tunes. One minute you singing

at alto, the next day you s like it be

different. Like

>> they not that far apart.

>> Whatever. Same [ __ ] Same [ __ ] Which

one? Which one is the fall one?

>> Tener at least from alto to tenor, my

[ __ ] Alto soprano.

>> You sing different tunes, boy.

>> All right.

>> Andy hit you with some music knowledge.

Take that music.

>> Are you hyping your man?

>> Musicality. You want to shoot that show?

That's my man.

>> You want to shoot that park?

>> What's up?

>> I got something.

>> I COULD THOUGH.

>> JUST Just say white.

>> You saw he got when that was

>> Yo, y'all should y'all should have held

my man down on that cuz that was

>> They did. They did.

>> I I wanted more.

>> Okay.

>> I wanted more.

>> They killing us for holding him down.

>> They stupid, are they?

>> Look. Yes. They on the internet talking

about some Joe cosigning the WHITE

DEVIL.

YOU'RE LYING.

>> I promise you.

>> Yeah.

>> Kicking my ass. I don't care. [ __ ] the

[ __ ]

>> Oh [ __ ]

>> Oh man.

>> That was Yeah.

>> What you going freeze? What's up free?

>> THAT [ __ ] FREEZING LIKE THAT.

>> I just got I just got to look at my man.

Make sure he good.

>> All right.

stupid.

>> Get my man involved in this chilling

[ __ ] You know, you know when he got his

jewelry on, he on my son came fully

loaded.

>> She going to watch. SHE GOING TO WATCH.

YOU GOT THE WHOLE [ __ ] ON, BOY.

>> EXACTLY. OH, I thought you took it off.

You had that on.

>> I didn't have it on.

>> Got a date tonight.

>> A date?

>> A FaceTime date with my the love of my

life.

>> Oh, got you.

>> You playing different Okay. You play

different.

>> I'm playing like y'all play.

>> I'm playing like y'all play.

>> That's fair.

>> Why you playing like y'all play? What?

>> I look like he slit

about your wife being on Patreon. I was

like, that's the only [ __ ] to do.

>> You guys like that don't look like this.

Listen, my wife could be on Patreon,

right? That's what's up.

>> Salute,

Mark. Mark,

you use this podcast.

>> Come on, you use this.

>> Exactly.

>> Come on in. What? I do research, too. We

know more.

Any guest that came up see dying to

shoot at each other.

>> We know we know Mark's backing him down.

I got [ __ ]

>> We know Mark

go already.

>> Oh, that's true.

>> [ __ ] on me.

>> Yo, my [ __ ] you shouldn't talk.

>> I'm not talking. I don't I love all

y'all. I'm out of the way.

>> Mark Lamont Hill.

>> Why you bringing me into this? This

>> involve yourself. I'm going to let you

know this right now. I love you, bro.

>> Love you, too.

>> Just please chill.

>> I see your tricks. I see the people that

you just call colleagues or collects or

whatever the [ __ ] you call them.

>> Collect like whatever it is, [ __ ] We

know your tricks, bro. Professor. Hello,

professor. Hey, we see you, boy. That

professor [ __ ] can't work anymore.

You're not teaching anybody up here. I

make the difference. You're not teaching

us. Actually, YOU MAKING FUN OF US.

>> NO, NEVER. YO, you got your music queued

up.

>> I can't do nothing cuz my girl know me

too well now.

>> Like, I can't even I'll be still trying

to get [ __ ] off. Like I I went out last

night on Thursday.

>> Oh, you got the bracelet on from last

night.

>> And I went out last Thursday.

>> You told

>> I don't know him to go out uh before

work night.

>> Mhm.

>> He said every time you go out before

work day.

>> No, but you going to Jersey and early.

Jersey and early.

>> Yeah, but just going out on a Thursday.

She like, "What's up with you, man?

What's up? See something new out there.

That's kind of like No,

>> that wasn't me.

>> No, no, it's nothing new. They just

changed the work the work schedule of

the lineup is. Oh,

>> that [ __ ] work at all.

>> No, it didn't sound good.

>> That didn't sound cool.

>> So, we got this rule. No comments under

Instagram pages. You could you could

like

>> Sure.

>> That's a good rule.

>> No comments under Instagram pages. You

shouldn't, but I try to break it

sometimes and hope that she don't see

it.

>> What's What kind of comments do you

leave? Is it like fire is like a money

bag your dumb ass eyes?

>> You didn't put You didn't put the eyes.

>> You didn't put fire, did you?

>> You been my girl 7 years, [ __ ]

>> You didn't put the fire. You didn't put

fire, did you?

>> You know, we've had the fire discussion.

>> Fire's too much.

>> Fire. Fire. Fire is a lot. Fire's too

much.

>> As is like finding something obscure in

the photo to comment on.

>> All right, let's let's unpack that one.

>> You could put fire under some food. You

could put fire under

>> some music. Yeah, for me an achievement,

I wouldn't look at it like no type of

way.

Somebody post their PhD

fire,

>> but if it's her in a bikini, you can't

put fire.

>> You can't put fire if the picture is

just fire. No,

>> THAT'S WHY YOU CAN'T PUT IT.

>> That's exactly WHY.

>> LET IT BURN IN YOUR BRAIN.

>> EXACTLY.

>> But wait a second. But you're not

actually cuz our conversation was she

like she doesn't. She got this. Anyway,

this is where it gets tricky. I'm sorry

to interrupt you. Now it's never just a

post. There's six slides. You might put

fire under the third slide,

>> but then there's a bikini under the

fifth slide. And now you're [ __ ]

>> Well, no. Here's the thing. Got jammed

up.

>> And this is what our fight this is what

our discussion was about. I'm not in

under comments or in DMs

putting fire like manually. If the story

is up there and it's sliding and I see

something dope,

>> I don't think that's

>> then I hit the fire thing. If it's dope

and that's it. That's better, but still

don't.

>> No, it depends on what's in the story.

>> And it's not better.

>> Like cuz the world don't see that you

did it, so it's less embarrassing.

>> No, listen. It could have started off

somebody posting the mountains

>> in the water and it's a nice rain fly

when you sliding across. Now it's shorty

with the head back, ass out pose. And

you put the fire under the scenic thing.

>> Is that fire?

>> The pose?

>> Yes, that pose is fire.

>> All of it fire.

That's the first thing I say. If you get

you fire, was it fire? Let's start

there. But anyway, because you know that

does that work.

>> You get that off.

>> Well, no, it's not getting that off.

It's just we can talk like that. But was

it fire? And it's just like, "No, this

[ __ ] been photoshopping. She catfishing

you and you stupid. All of the towels

are bent."

>> That's another conversation. Even if you

photoshopping and catfishing, is it does

the is the end result still fire?

>> And that's what I said. She says,

"You're embarrassing. You are

embarrassing. You can't tell that this

girl is not this girl and she's

facetuning and photoshopping." So when

you think we care, we don't care.

>> No, they think we we should care because

of how it makes them look.

>> So let's say they all natural. Let's say

the girl's all natural and she

>> if your girl or your husband I mean if

your girl or your wife or whatever was

just lusting after some flavor flave and

I don't think flavor flavor is

unattractive dude when he when he's

sober

>> uh but lusting after somebody that you

just thought was a dun

you would

say no you said she dude I'm like but

that hairline is fake and that's an

implant

>> my girl lusting after the finest n I'm

going to still feel the same Hey, ain't

like I'mma give her a pass cuz she

lusting over the fly [ __ ] versus

[ __ ]

>> Well, lusting. We being dramatic. I'm

talking about just a fire emoji on this

>> publicly. Publicly.

>> But anyway, I'm veering off of I'm

veering off of what my main fight was.

My main fight was so I break the little

no comment rule sometime with one person

maybe.

>> But is it the same person every time?

>> According to her.

>> Yeah, it's the same person.

>> According according to her I'm sure they

GOT LIKE A WORKOUT GIRL. Like I support

the

>> You think that's better?

>> You're not making it better.

>> That's not better.

>> I think you saying it's better. You're

not making it better.

>> You said anyway. A pull up and push-up

[ __ ]

>> Anyway, so they so they be playing like

fly music in the P.

>> Yeah. All right, man. You got some

Surely you have some music.

>> So I So in ONE

mix

heard that blend before

pump it up, [ __ ]

>> HEY YO, DOG. What's the comment? You are

the be like, "Girl, what you know about

that?"

>> 100%.

>> You ain't up ON THAT OLD SCHOOL.

>> WHAT' you say? That [ __ ] room.

>> So

months ago, maybe I said something like

obviously some dumb ass, you know. No,

it was a comment I left and went on

about my day and never thought twice

about ages ago. You won't tell us the

ages ago. They say that is the problem.

The comment was something like, "What

did I say?"

Old school music is always a vibe.

>> That's Uncle.

I can promise you I WASN'T RUNNING TO

PLAY. I REALLY JUST LIKE THE SONG. The

song choice. It was good to hear. Last

week I'm hanging up the phone with my

girl. She said, "Uhoh."

And one last thing before we g

you better stop leaving them comments

that you think I'm not seeing because

you trying to get your flirt on and I

know you. know your little

old school music line that you trying to

run. You can you can get that [ __ ] the

[ __ ]

and if I see it again

>> and if I see it one more time that's

your ass. I said you

said yes you [ __ ] You look dumb as hell

and you thirsty.

>> Yeah, she got she done right.

So then I stood on that that's that's

not

>> what flirting blue match I know you I

know you like the back of my hand I seen

all that [ __ ] you getting off in that

phone [ __ ] that that's your flirt

>> you said the same her probably 10 years

ago

right you know want a fool or the music

laughing at how my girl got me dead

right you're an idiot

old school music always a vibe

>> always a vibe

>> [ __ ] You a drunk [ __ ] girl.

>> All she had to do is hit you back.

>> No. And I wasn't. And I wasn't.

>> Listen. Cuz then I turned into ish on

her too. Cuz then I turned into ish on

her cuz she was playing like Yeah. I

see. And

>> you told me what the turning into ish

entails.

>> This is the thing. In a minute there

ain't going to be no intro music.

>> This is the thing.

>> If your girl has seen you being

survived, if your girl

If your girl has seen you being what

they would deem, not guy brain,

>> what they would deem as thirsty or, you

know,

>> inappropriate.

>> Mhm.

>> Once or twice or maybe seen one joint of

yours that don't fit with the rest of

the roster.

>> They start talking to you like that's

just your character, like you thirsty.

>> Yeah. No.

>> Yeah.

>> You a thirsty ass. Look at you. Look at

you. In fairness, if you talk to a girl

doing some dumb ass [ __ ] like that, you

would be on her ass, too. Cuz I would.

>> So, if I saw her saying some dumb ass,

>> so when I say I turned into it, she's

like, "Yeah, I read the DM. You DM you."

>> Well, if you read the DMs, you seen the

dub then. Stop [ __ ] playing. You call

me thirsty again. Stop playing. You have

no idea how many I Yeah. Yeah. I had to

pop it on. Yeah. I pop it.

>> How'd it go?

>> You won that ROUND FOR SURE.

THIS IS AN ICE.

>> I was only fighting the thirsty

accusation. That's what she had me

right. It's not

a place some some

>> ask a question. What?

>> How does that How did you get ish on

her?

>> That's what I would do

>> when somebody questions your uh

>> Yeah.

>> your ump you did with Dr. Cheyenne. You

you saying very fast. Yo, y'all know who

I am. You know what the [ __ ] I do? You

know that you do that a lot.

>> Like a lot. I did that with Cheyenne.

>> Yes.

>> Yes.

>> You forgot.

>> Get your memory together, [ __ ]

>> YES. MORE THAN ONE.

>> YOU did that big.

>> That was a long ass episode in fairness.

>> Yeah, it was like this [ __ ] though.

>> Yeah.

>> Get me full. Yo, let me let y'all know

who I am.

>> Yeah, you did. Remember that.

>> I do this. I do this, [ __ ]

>> He did it when I sat down.

>> He really He really just be talking to

Ammani.

>> I'm talking to you. That's my

>> He just be really letting Ammani know.

Hey dog, if you just chill out, I'm

going to throw it back in the water.

>> Okay, that's it.

>> If you just if you just be cool. All

right. All right.

I know you I'm letting you eat. I'M

LETTING YOU EAT.

>> WHY [ __ ] DON'T DIE?

>> THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND. Sometime

we ain't doing that to my [ __ ] That's

that what's going on.

>> Cuz you don't eat my be letting him eat

sometimes. So you know what I'm saying?

So he ain't doing that.

>> I'm not trying to eat.

>> Yes, you do. His plate is full. Yes, you

do. You trying to eat a lot.

You go right behind the [ __ ] too. No.

>> All right, I'm playing.

I'm playing some old school.

>> The lady in a [ __ ]

>> Listen, [ __ ] How [ __ ] you up today?

Yo,

>> I was quiet thinking I had

>> Oh my god. Boy, you lucky.

>> Get it. Get it.

>> You're lucky.

>> We hit these drops right quick.

>> No.

Another daddy.

>> Who is that?

>> I'M FROM THE WOMEN ERA. IT'S THE

NETWORK.

>> What episode is this?

>> 9:23.

>> Welcome to episode 923 of the Joe Button

Podcast. I'm your humble, healthy,

happy, grateful, extremely uh extremely

delighted to be here. Host your Button

here with a few really amazing people.

To my right, Queens get the money.

Queens Flip is in the building. To his

right, our good brother Dr. Mark Lamont

Hill is in the building. To his right,

Mr. Thousand Doors and up. Our good

brother is here to his right. Love the

color way on the kicks in the hood. You

should absolutely smoke that Freeze.

Good uh good brother Freeze is in the

building next TO HIM. HUH. BIG PARKS is

in the building next to him. You think

we done with white privilege? Po is

here, [ __ ] Our photographer got some

white privilege, [ __ ] Po is here. Cory

is here. Stop playing with Cory. Uh,

Ericson is here. Tanner Son here by

remote. Last, but certainly not least,

each and every one of you very important

people out there are here. Shout out to

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>> Okay, what we doing? You know what I

mean? When you when it take you a while

to get to that, I be trying to read

through it like, "Yo, they [ __ ] my son

up for real." Will you do that?

>> Do what? The private

cuz cuz Parks be holding you down.

That's why I love you. I can see why the

white privilege come [ __ ] LIKE THIS.

LOOK, BUDDY. BUDDY, YOU JUST TAKE A

WHILE. YOU BE SEEING it too. But why

scare you though?

>> It scared me because

>> this [ __ ] He

ain't mad. If anybody watch If anybody

probably watches that [ __ ] he about to

watch more than me. So it scared me

because I don't know if we you know we

losing some bread. I don't know what it

is [ __ ]

>> You guys are watching.

>> I want my [ __ ] to stay the same.

>> Hey, we are you. Oh, your [ __ ] is Come

on.

>> Come on. You know, you know.

>> I'm out of here anyway. No, I'm out of

here. I'm out of here.

>> I don't want you to leave, but your [ __ ]

is ain't the same. You know that. Come

on. You know that we don't do contracts

on here. If there's anybody to know, you

know. You know already.

>> No. I had 11 months of [ __ ] living

hiring accountability members your [ __ ]

I can't when your day come we just come

over just come talk to me. Uh what was

we talking about

>> and you know us and we're in good

standards with Prize just so shout

we are all the way to the good my ass

lately but shout out to Josh.

>> Yeah.

>> They saw that lick you.

>> I know. Yeah. They said nope.

>> Yeah. Stop. Yeah. We'll put a stop to

that. I might be a little hooked. I

might be a little hooked. I didn't hit

about five times now.

>> Have you ass?

>> TAKE THAT, ANONYMOUS ex user.

>> All right, good. No, prize piece is

great. How y'all doing, man? What's up?

What's popping? Good, man. Great.

>> Y'all look good. Y'all look refreshed.

>> I apologize to you brothers for the just

how out of it I was the other day.

>> You were a mess.

>> Yuck.

Oh my god. Remember that voice?

>> I um

>> I'm not in it this month, Mark. You

ain't got to worry about me. I'm

chilling. They say remember bonus.

>> No, he said remember that voters.

>> Oh, I thought he said

>> remember that vote.

>> I'm not in it this month.

>> Yeah.

>> Bonus.

>> That's what I thought he said.

>> No. Y'all know how many bonuses y'all

supposed to get a year. God damn.

>> This a summer bonus. I mean, I should

mention it.

>> Oh my god. How y'all doing? What's up?

>> Doing good, man. Weekend coming in, man.

You know, we excited. Everybody excited,

man.

>> It's nice outside today. It's beautiful

outside. We're excited, man.

>> Happy to be happy to be here at work.

>> Well, let's work. We want to start. Uh,

well, you say rested. I didn't get as

much rest as I wanted cuz I went to see

Michael Jackson last night.

>> So, so did I.

>> You were beest. Y'all went together.

>> It was not in my behest. Some gay.

>> Oh, it was. You beested.

>> Different theaters.

>> Okay.

>> Different.

>> Otherwise, it'd be gay.

>> It' be a little gay. Yeah. A lot.

>> I made sure.

>> Especially the mic. Yeah. No.

Well, so what happened was Joe Joe went

on a group chat. First of all, remember

>> the last episode where Joe Button said,

"I'm not going to see that [ __ ] I have

no interest in seeing that [ __ ]

>> I'll see it on DVD."

>> I took that to mean naively that that

meant he wasn't going to see it.

>> Crazy me. Turns out he goes to see it

before all of us.

>> Yeah. No, first I saw first and

>> Okay. Well, money don't count. He's a

super fan. He like I expect he loves

Michael Jackson.

>> He might be in it somewhere.

>> Yeah, he might be. Well,

That was the part that ended.

>> Oh [ __ ]

>> So, um, so I saw Joe on the group chat

like, "Yo, I seen the movie and I you

had your thoughts on it and I was like,

"What?" And then I heard you say you saw

it

>> and you said you were going to see it.

>> I said, "Fuck it. I'm going to go see

that."

>> So, I was like, "We going to talk about

it. I want to be the only motherfucker."

>> I was in the group chat and encouraged

my brothers to go see this movie, right?

>> Yes.

>> Yeah.

>> Antoine Fuqua,

great black uh, black director, black

excellence. I encourage my entire group

chat to go see this film.

>> That's a fact.

Okay. So, when do we get our money back?

>> Well, let me start. Let me start. Let me

start cuz I have a different take.

>> You saw it first.

>> Yeah.

>> Not just that. I I didn't hate this

movie the way everybody else did. I

heard it was I absolutely enjoyed the

movie. Now, I want to start. I'm not the

super Michael Jackson fan. I didn't

watch every doc and all of this. So,

there's stuff that I learned in this

movie that I didn't know. I don't watch

documentaries. I don't do all of that

[ __ ] I'm This is from the common fan

who just saw the movie.

What did I learn? What did I learn? I

did not know that I didn't know nothing

about Don King being involved with none

of that [ __ ] I didn't know that the

final tour that he did with his

brothers, he basically just did that as

a gift to them. Like, yo, I'm not with

y'all no more. Here, take that. I didn't

know that though.

>> I didn't know.

>> You didn't know much about Michael

Jackson.

>> I knew the music, bro. That's what I'm

saying. And And I saw the uh the the

Jackson.

>> What part of the island your family is

from again?

>> I watched the the Jackson um American

dream, man. But I saw that

>> Jamaica. He's Jamaican.

>> Yeah, he's half Jamaican. Yes.

>> Yes, I'm half Jamaican.

>> Okay.

>> But yeah, I I'm not I'm not story. Oh,

go ahead. I'M NOT I'M NOT SAYING I'm

just telling you from my perspective.

Just think every time I ask that

question that I'm on

ask you on [ __ ]

>> WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK I'M SAYING?

WHAT'S THAT DO ANYTHING? Everything got

to do with Michael Jackson.

>> Everything. And that's why we think

you're think you're on bull. But it's

not a bull statement. The n from the

islands just be in their own vibe in

their own.

I'M NOT FROM THE ISLAND FROM NEW YORK.

>> New York,

>> RIGHT?

>> You trying to set me up. You wanted TO

BLAME ME. THAT'S WHERE YOU FROM.

>> I'M NOT SHOOTING. I ain't no matter what

you say.

>> I'm not. Go ahead. Freeze.

I'm not I'm not I know

that that that was that was my take. It

was just like I I enjoyed

>> you thought he wanted to go into over

with his brothers.

>> No story.

>> Yo, knowing all you know is that just

about music right after Thriller.

>> No, no, no. What I'm saying is that I

didn't realize that pop like the theme

of this story of this movie I I knew

before I even went to go see it that it

only covered a certain part of Mike's

life. It wasn't the full I saw a lot of

people mad at that. Like it ended too

early. I knew it would only went up to a

certain point.

>> Were you surprised to know his dad was

rough on him?

>> No. [ __ ]

>> I never went through that.

Turns out he's a bit of an [ __ ]

Leave him alone. WE GOT TO DO THAT. YOU

DON'T KNOW YOU.

FREEZE.

>> It's cool, bro. I'm not let him talk. He

was really intense.

>> Joe Jackson.

>> Oh, he started.

>> He got the switch.

>> You know, those were real gang members

and be

I will say this, Ice. Now, let me agree

with you. I I went in part cuz of Joe.

>> If y'all like it, hurry up with the

That's why I'm trying to get my [ __ ] out

the way. Get out of my way.

>> I want to get my [ __ ] out.

>> I've been working on this all night.

I've been I'm in the middle. So, I'll

I'll Are you in transition? Yeah.

>> Really?

>> You transition? Okay. I told you this

your year.

>> I I I came in I didn't read the reviews,

but I knew of them and I knew the right

like right to middle rankings and all of

that stuff. And so I was like, um, this

is going to be um this is going to be

terrible, but I didn't know exactly why

it would be terrible. So, I went in and

I I didn't read the reviews cuz I didn't

want to have too much influence.

>> Mhm.

>> I went in with a certain expectation and

I was actually surprised. I kept waiting

for the shoe to drop for it to be awful.

There were some scenes that I thought

>> there were some

>> there were some scenes, right? Gang

members, monkeys. There was a few things

where I was like, "This is too much."

>> But I went in in general expected with a

low expectation. I walked out like, "Yo,

I'm enjoying this. This is good." Oh,

wait. I'm enjoying this music. Oh, I

like this story cuz I DIDN'T GO IN.

>> I LET ME TELL YOU WHY.

>> I LIKE THE FINISH, [ __ ]

>> LET ME TELL YOU WHY. THANK YOU, FLIP.

>> I'M ON EDGE.

>> YOU DON'T NEED TO TELL ME WHY YOU ENJOY

MICHAEL JACKSON MUSIC.

>> NO, NO, NO. THAT'S WHY I GOT THE music

story of the movie.

>> I didn't I I'm a I went in knowing a

decent amount about Michael Jackson. So,

I didn't come in expecting to learn

anything. I I felt inspired by the story

of like independence and him growing to

be to do his own thing. He's shaking off

his dad, all that [ __ ]

>> That was the thing. That's what I was

trying to say. That was you could tell

the movie was

>> shaking off his dad.

>> If it was I'm going to say last thing

I'll say, if this was on Netflix or if

this was maybe even on a network, we'd

be praising it, right? I think because

it's a cinematic release, the the

expectation was higher, but just as an

entertaining movie,

>> I I I thought the kid did a good job

playing Michael Jackson, which I didn't

expect. I thought the costumes and

makeup

>> as in who? Jafar.

>> Jafar. I thought Jafar did a good job. I

thought the costumes and makeup were

solid. There were some mistakes like an

act, you know, wrong hairstyle for the

wrong year. Little little nerd mistakes.

>> But I thought the [ __ ] was honestly I

expected to be giving I thought I was

going to come here giving it a C minus

and I would give it a B.

>> I would stick with the C. For me

personally, I thought it was it was

entertaining. It was entertaining, but

it was it was I guess kind of cheesy

maybe.

>> Yes,

>> it was a little cheesy. It felt like it

could have easily have lived on Hulu or

Netflix, but with a nicer budget cuz it

looked expensive. Yeah, but

>> Tuby

Red stick

could have been on magic.

>> I thought it was it like I didn't like

the way that they obsessed on all this

very strange about Michael, which I get

you have to address it, I guess, on some

level, like the the surgeries and the

vitiligo and all that [ __ ]

>> Yeah.

>> But they dwelled on it in a weird way to

me where they didn't really talk about

his artistry enough for me, I think.

Right.

>> It was like sensationalized artistry,

which I He's a pop star, so that part

should be kind of like left unsaid, but

he was more than that.

>> Yeah.

>> And they didn't really tap into that for

me. That's true.

>> And that's part of why that's part of

why this movie was absolute trash for

me. But but I enjoyed it.

>> I enjoyed it. There was some funny.

>> Like I told y'all, I was the only person

in that theater howling, laughing from

the from the onset. I was laughing not

from the onset. Once the monkey came in

the in the movie came out, I was like,

"All right."

>> Well, because Well, because the movie

starts,

>> this is Michael. First of all, this is

Michael Jackson. This is him.

>> Yes.

>> The movie starts with a really bad vocal

of a Michael Jackson song. It was almost

like hurt my ears. Whoever that was

singing that just on the opening.

>> Yeah.

>> Got me. I'm already laughing. This is

all right.

>> You talking about when they're in the

living room practicing

>> before they before the movie even

starts.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. I guess that's what that was.

That's them singing in the living room.

So that was

>> Yeah, that was a bad So then it opened

up.

>> I assume that was intentional to show

like oh he became great.

>> So which is hard when you say he has

perfect pitch and he's a natural. I

can't imagine Michael ever sounded that

bad. He

>> I'm sure he did. Everyone does at some

point. But yes, carry on. Sorry. So they

open up with them singing in the living

room and

Jafar did a great job

even though well he did a great job and

he looks a little like Michael because

he's Germaine's son. Yeah. And that made

me look at Germaine and Jafar weird

because [ __ ] I feel like Germaine

wanted to be Michael. So now here go

your son trying to be Michael and you

executive produced all this [ __ ] and you

executive produced the other one that we

love the the one that came out in '92,

>> the American Dream.

>> The American Dream. He was on there like

why Jermaine always on the back end of

>> they all listed at they were all listed

as EPs on this one.

>> They all they all didn't dress like

Jermaine dressed at the premiere. But

anyway, young young Michael Jackson

>> so stupid.

>> Six-year-old Michael Jackson. Was he

six seven five?

>> Who casted that little mother?

>> Who the [ __ ] casted him?

He looked like

that [ __ ] looked like my older brother

when we was young. He looked like young

Peter Guns.

He looked like he looked didn't look

nothing like m young Michael Jackson to

me. Number one, he didn't move like him.

He didn't sound like him. He didn't act

like him. He was atrocious through the

first 45 minutes of this movie.

>> In fairness, I I thought even Jafar

didn't necessarily move like Mike, but

nobody moves like Mike. So, like, it's a

little

>> No, no, no, no, no. This [ __ ] didn't

move like a Mike impersonator in Time

Square. That little young six-year-old

Mike, he was atrocious. Sorry. I know

he's a kid. He was bad. Hey, do you Hey,

whoever casted this, do you know why

Jason Weaver played young Michael

Jackson before? Come on. Jason Weaver

could really sing. Could really move.

Michael Jackson was a

>> phenom.

>> Fish child prodigy.

>> See what you did there? That was a good

one.

>> Michael Jackson was so for this little

kid that he was a absolute.

>> I disagree. That that little guy you was

going to disagree, but you already gave

your opinion. I my opinion that little

[ __ ] stunk.

>> Wait, as a as an actor or just the

performance parts

>> as whatever they asked him to do.

>> I'm saying cuz I thought

>> his acting wasn't bad.

>> That's what I'm saying. Like he was he

was I agree with you on the music part.

But there was a lot of tender [ __ ] like

when he was hugging uh Barry Gordy when

he like all the sadness of him wanting

his dad and and HAVING THAT WEIRD

>> OH, THAT WAS ONE OF MY FAVORITE parts to

laugh at.

>> You're a TERRIBLE I kind of understand.

That was one of my favorite parts to

laugh at.

>> Yo,

>> this movie didn't do nothing. Like, if

you were Ice or somebody that didn't

know much about Michael Jackson going to

this movie, you don't know nothing about

Michael Jackson still. Michael Jackson

is

>> Crimella Crim and this movie didn't

present him that way. It didn't tell a

story. It didn't say just how in it

didn't tell you that people was fainting

all around the world. them little crowds

that they put on whatever Hulu set that

they was in that they built

>> it wasn't never going to look like what

Michael Jackson was out here doing their

storytelling they didn't tell any story

they did tell

me just talk please let me just talk

please the stories they had

>> moments in Mike's life that they wanted

to highlight

>> so it went from 68 you young to Jackson

five we working and we doing talent

shows that the very next time it jumps

to 78 or some [ __ ] you want to be

starting something is out. NO, NO, NO,

NO. And then they jump from that to the

nose job. THEY JUST POPPED UP and they

in front of the mirror with bandages on

nose. Wait, no. You can't. These are

things you uh two hours. It was two

hours. These are things that you can't

quickly

>> just gloss over. They just fast

forwarded through this whole [ __ ] If

this were a musical, then I don't have

no beef.

>> I will also say too in regards to the

vitiligo, the nose job, all that stuff,

it didn't really it just said that it

happened and it didn't really discuss

enough for me why it happened. You know

what I'm saying?

>> See, at

another hour to the movie,

>> the [ __ ] go to the movie too long.

>> Not if not if

>> not if it's good.

>> Not if it's [ __ ] won't really be if

it's

>> Listen, they talking about they talking

about it being a part two to it. My girl

went to see it last night and came out.

I think there's going to be a part two.

I laugh

set you up for a part.

>> The way it ends if you live through

this,

>> bro. Every

Hold on. Hold on.

>> How how we talking about a There's a

crop of people that don't that didn't

live through this [ __ ] that's in their

20s.

>> A lot of them.

>> Yeah.

>> Like there's a lot of people you heard

Michael Jackson. You don't really know

the Michael Jackson.

>> But to Joe's point, no. But to Joe's

point, even if you're 20 something years

old and you heard of Michael Jackson and

you don't know the story, when you walk

out the movie theater, you still don't

know the story or you don't know his

>> Can I just finish slamming this before?

>> Loren Tate was in this movie for 6

minutes.

>> Yeah.

>> Loren Tate was in this movie for 6

minutes. There was a portion of this

movie where I thought the script had to

be maybe 22 pages with the words that

was the sing that was it was just music

singing singing quick quick scene jump

cut to a year music music. Yo, Lorenz

Tate was playing Barry Gordy. Check this

out. I don't never want to see Barry

Gordy not be 75 years old. I ain't going

to hold you. When I when I hear the name

Barry Gordy and I see him in a movie,

don't show me him young

up.

Yo, this [ __ ]

>> I don't care.

>> We got you. We got you, champ.

>> Bubbles.

>> This is a good I'm with you.

>> The CGI bubbles that he brought his

whole family out

>> to look at.

>> That that bubbles was a mess. The

giraffe CGI, all the CGI in the movie.

>> Yeah, it was pretty bad.

>> The CGI was horrible. My favorite the my

biggest laugh in the in the movie was

they're in the studio and they showed

Quincy at the board and I was like,

"Damn, they showed Bruce Sweden who's

this legendary engineer who did all all

of his shit." Yeah.

>> But then they they showed him and I was

like, "Oh [ __ ] Bruce Sweden. That's

dope." They they included him. They

didn't say his name, which is a little

disrespectful, but whatever. But then

they continued to zoom out and Bubbles

is at the [ __ ] board. I [ __ ]

hollered.

>> I know you.

>> What?

>> That was a mess.

>> Why is Bubbles at the board?

>> That's That's some engineer nerd [ __ ]

though, yo. HE CAN'T EVEN FADE. HE TOOK

IT UP.

>> And then you can't really appreciate

Mike greatness without knowing. I

watched this movie and was laughing at

they cut out every time Joe Jackson was

about to get in his bag.

>> They cut it right out.

>> They cut it right out. I don't know

what's the [ __ ] story there. It's part

of Mike's greatness. It's part of every

part Mark talking about how he escaped

from his dad. When did he do that in the

movie? That that was your dad. I had him

at every turn.

>> Remember when his dad just popped out

after

>> standing right there holding the paper

going frame

>> and poor along. Poor along. Just

>> another one.

>> Just standing there.

>> Tell the truth.

>> Standing there not helping, just not

doing nothing. Hey, in the beginning of

the movie when Mike that song up, they

cut it out. But Joe beat the dog [ __ ]

out of Michael Jackson when he [ __ ]

Hey, they show him give a little pow

pow. He he about to he cleaned that

house up with that young Michael Jackson

about yo when they told him yo stop

moving in the booth.

>> You ain't seen the look going to boo.

He was going he was GOING TO THE BOO.

HEY WAIT AND THEN HE GO HE GOING TO TURN

TO Barry Gordy. He in there hanging out

with BARRY GORDY JOE JACKSON LOOKING

like where is my he

thanks for everything Joe ask me

anytime. And when he turned around, oh

wait, BARRY GORDY ALMOST GOT [ __ ]

MICHAEL,

>> you know, anything you need me. I said,

oh, they cut it out

>> right here. Jackson got the hallway.

>> Joe Jackson cleaned that hallway.

Young Michael,

>> I thought they were pretty nice on Joe

Jackson honestly.

>> Wait, Mike was so helpless. He went to

the label. He said, "Hey,

>> I need you."

And they was looking LIKE THE [ __ ]

>> YEAH. WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. WHO? WHO? Fire

who?

>> Boy. When Joe got when Joe got that

facts.

>> When Joe got that facts. Hey, they cut

it out the movie.

>> Clean some more. In the kitchen. The

refrigerator. But when he got his hands

on Mike,

>> he cleaned the [ __ ] house with Michael

Jackson. I ain't going to tell you. Mike

overcame so much and they didn't show

it.

>> Fail is cuz you ain't see it. The [ __ ]

held the facts in his hand for a good

eight hours.

>> Have you seen you in different places?

My son was UP. MY SON WAS DOWN. THIS

[ __ ] still

was like,

>> "What kind of son does this?"

>> I was going to frame this.

>> What kind of son fire me?

>> You fired me through facts. You couldn't

even say it to my face.

>> No, I need my face. I couldn't believe

I couldn't believe I was laughing so

hard in this movie just knowing that

they invited real Jackson's to watch

this.

>> Then the stupid movie come on. They want

to keep showing me Latoya.

>> What was Janet? Janet said

>> if you don't remove me and my image and

likeness from this y'all got going on.

So now we got to act like Michael and

Tori was tight.

See, Ice wouldn't know because

>> I don't know.

>> Some of the story they told Diana Ross

called them expediently.

Hey

>> remove anything that Diana Ross out of

this movie.

>> Don't y'all put You better not

>> Don't put no Diana.

>> Don't put a D. Don't even say

>> don't put no Princess D. D Carol D Ross.

>> Don't put Ross from Friends. Don't put

nothing. Rick Ross in this movie. Rick

Ross.

>> Really? What's the reason you think? I

don't cuz cuz they saw it.

>> Cuz they saw it. This didn't tell the

full story.

>> Don't a real person want to be

associated with this with this [ __ ]

>> And like I said again, it does seem like

there was a theme with this movie. It

wasn't to tell Michael's story. It was

more so to tell this was to just show

Michael's like coming of age and finally

becoming my own person and getting from

under my father.

>> That's what it seemed like that was the

purpose of the movie. Not

>> the gang members the gang members and

beat it.

>> That scene was

>> I thought it was going to show him

joining the crips right then too.

>> See that's the thing that the fans

was a [ __ ]

>> He was and he went to the hoods and got

real gang members to be in the vicinity.

So they tried to show that using Hulu

gang members.

>> [ __ ] are idiot, bro.

>> Them [ __ ] look like, you know, the

main n they had that was doing the dance

with the mustache. They went and got

Torres from New York undercover to be

that like these look like the Torres.

>> That was he wasn't

>> No, it wasn't really Torres. This guy

looked I'm saying it was like the lugs

version of Torres.

Now these gang members

>> Joe hated this movie because of his

print shot

>> in the movie.

>> Yeah.

>> What was the print shot?

>> Some little was like don't let Prince

get it or something.

>> Oh yeah, he did.

>> That's what it was.

>> Yeah, he did. He did it. Yeah, he did

throw that shot at.

>> He threw that little shot, man.

>> Yeah.

>> No, that was a big up.

>> No, it wasn't said as a big up.

>> You talking about when they was talking

about song, right?

>> Yeah.

>> And he said, "Don't let Prince get that

song. He said he said his son said yeah

I can't remember exactly I don't [ __ ]

with him I want him getting it

I don't [ __ ] with him and he's the

biggest [ __ ] out there please don't let

him get this

>> yeah I took it like that I didn't tell

you like that

>> but how they do a movie without the so

Jan is not mentioned at all

>> no it's Latoya

>> I mean Latoya was around and THEN

JERMAINE JERMAINE I HATE WHEN I COULD

TELL when the executive producer came in

the writing room and you gonna make Joe

Jackson say, "Yeah, Germaine's not

coming on tour with us cuz he stayed

over there. He stayed at where he want

to be." He wanted to be at Mottown. So,

let him stay here.

>> He stayed there and we're on Epic. Yo,

casual fans, I promise y'all.

>> Joe Jackson did not say that.

>> Nobody looked for Jermaine Jackson when

this tour was being organized. Yo,

>> that's not true.

>> Not one, not a soul. You see what you

see? Not not

>> I like this idea. Is Michael going to be

there?

>> Yeah. I mean, that's the main thing.

>> All right. Cuz without this, all that

talking go out the window. Like, is

Michael going to be there? I don't even

like how they burnt Mike's hair in the

[ __ ] This was just like a If you know

Michael Jackson's story, which I do,

this is like a spoof slap in the face to

>> the the real he was.

>> Yeah.

>> It was the most service level [ __ ] I

ever seen in my life.

>> Yes, it it wasn't deep. It was a money

grab. It looks like a money grab. I

agree with Paris. But but Mike's story

is deep.

>> Yeah.

>> Mike story is one of the deepest.

>> That's why I say when you walk into

>> any segment of his story is deep.

>> Word.

>> This is like the Times Square 2000's

version of Michael Jackson story. This

is the Marshall's version of this is

this is it.

>> There's some stuff missing. But I think

when I see a family make a film about

somebody whose life is complicated and

messy and interesting and brilliant, I

always expect it to look like that. So I

guess I I just my expectations were so

managed coming.

>> Is it is it possible that the family

protected Joe?

>> Yes, it felt like it.

>> You know what I'm saying? I'm just

saying a little bit.

>> I mean said all kinds of about Joe and

and that stuff wasn't in there. So you

know I mean all kinds of [ __ ]

>> cuz I know you were saying like they

didn't really they cut out they didn't

really show how Joe was on his ass. And

if the family has to say so in this it's

like we don't we don't want that part

out there that bad.

>> Yeah. And that that might have been a

tugof-war between um the different

siblings and that might have been part

of what Janet didn't want to be a part

of. I don't want to speculate about

Janet so much, but I know they all had

very different experiences with Joe and

I I've seen Latoya say and she's told me

directly like some of her experiences

with Joe and some of her allegations and

then I've heard Michael say things. I've

talked to Marlin. He said different and

so I think they wanted to just show look

this dude was rough

>> and clearly but we're not going to go

into all these different directions. The

movie is not about the

>> It's not about that person. But see, I

thought some of it was some of the stuff

y'all think was basic. I thought was

subtle. Like when when he first starts,

as you said, cleaning the house with

Mike, he also called him big nose.

>> Yeah.

>> And so calling him big nose to me was

like the okay, this is deep in my head

that I got nose.

>> Right. So by the time he's at the the

the the doctor saying, "Well, I need it

to be symmetrical." It's showing the

delusion that he has. And then when when

Joe walks up to him and he says, "It's

for my septum." It's like they're

showing Michael has a has a a self-hate

>> and he's constantly trying to convince

the world that there's a real reason for

it and the nose keeps getting smaller

and there's always a new excuse for it.

The nose strip that came on like around

an hour and a half in. So to me it

wasn't that they didn't deal with it.

They just expect they expected a lot.

They expected a little bit more of the

viewer which I'm okay with.

>> But to your point, you you shouldn't

expect that much from the viewer if

you're going to do a A&E Lifetime style

movie. You got to kind of pick your pick

your struggle here. But but I I thought

they hit that. I didn't like I wanted

more of the creative stuff. There was

such a creative tension between Quincy

Jones and Michael Jackson from

offthe-wall to to bad in terms of the

tugof-war over who was going to have

most control over. None of that was

there cuz Quincy just disappeared. I

mean he was I don't know none of that.

>> There was more tension between Barry

Gordy and in in the movie and and Quincy

than Michael and Quincy which I thought

was weird given given I mean Quincy said

by

>> it was weird.

>> That that was weird to me. There there

were things like that that I didn't

like. Um but

>> again, I didn't go and expected much.

>> Go see this movie is what we're saying.

>> I was entertained. I will say that. I

was entertained.

>> As was I. And listen, I laughed halfway

through because I was laughing at Mark

earlier. But as the music is playing cuz

I went hoping to walk out. I did walk

out, but I walked but I walked out when

he started doing the robot during human

nature at the end. So it was the end.

But but like but that's my that was your

breaking point.

Enough was enough at this point with cuz

I saw my this is not

but but in the movie I'm like yo I

wanted to walk out sooner but this music

is so good that

>> it's Michael Jackson music

walk out on Michael Jackson music.

>> It was pretty cool the way they

motifized his hits into like the score.

You know what I'm saying? Broke up

little pieces of the melody. That was

that was that was

>> I thought that was really dope. I this

and again I thought there were some

tender moments. I thought young Michael

Jackson I I was really compelled by

that. Um like watching him looking for

>> He ain't get another acting gig.

>> [ __ ]

>> You won't you won't see him again.

>> He might not get another performance.

>> If we ain't seeing Jonathan Major, they

better not put this little raggedy kid

on the [ __ ] team. Shout out to that

young man. He I thought he

>> No. No. Shout out to the young man in

real life.

>> Yeah, I thought I actually thought he

did a great job.

>> But as Michael Jackson, we could put him

in the sewer with the Ninja Turtles.

>> We won't be Mike no more.

>> We could put him

>> I mean he he didn't buy it. You know

what I mean? as in terms of the

performance aspects, but again like I

thought he tapped into something that's

hard to tap into as a young kid. Um, in

terms of the emotions and [ __ ] like that

when Michael I felt that kid looking for

something. I felt that kid looking for

love, looking for a father. That huggy

gave Bar and Mark out

>> that [ __ ] was one of the most beautiful

things I saw in the whole movie.

Honestly, that huggy gave Barry Gordon

studio was real. I could feel that. Um,

like I just I just thought I thought

they did a good job. Even when when

Michael came back as the bigger Michael

and he was trying to get them to play

Twister.

>> Yo fam, that was another one.

>> No, when they was he was playing Twister

with Bubbles. Bubbles. OKAY, THAT WAS

RIDICULOUS.

>> NO, you're cheating. YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

>> THAT WAS RIDICULOUS. THAT was

ridiculous. But anyway, shout out to

everybody in the film. Shout out to

Coleman Domingo who did an amazing job.

He was smoking him. Um he did a great

job.

>> They knew they better put a real actor

around them young kids. And if y'all if

y'all want to keep supporting film

whether you love it or hate it or in the

middle just support this film. Go out

and check it out cuz we can't get more

films made if we don't go out and

support.

>> Yeah, that was the greatest news I got

going to the movie theaters is that Ipic

is not closing unfortunately. Hey, make

some noise. Make some noise.

>> Make some noise.

>> You threw some bread down.

>> No, no, no. But someone did. Like I knew

they would.

>> You should have. Like I knew they would.

No, I know.

>> How many seats did you buy?

>> [ __ ]

>> Yesterday?

>> Yeah.

>> Uh, six. And

>> how many people went with you? Nobody

shut up. Just make making sure somebody

you played your part.

>> Yeah. Say Joe bought six seats that sat

to sit by to make sure no one was

sitting near him

>> and still sat next to somebody.

>> Did you?

>> I started I started next to someone then

I saw some seats open. I was like

>> cuz it was it was

>> I picked that thing

>> because it was the smaller theater. So

that means that the two seats I'm always

in over here like was just over here and

I bought the center ones and that was in

the center but it only let me buy the

[ __ ] It was a mess. I sat in the center

and some thug sat next to me.

>> I had Yeah, I I saw it in the hood. So,

I was I was a lot of people there

>> and it wasn't a thug. Some kept getting

up to do [ __ ] was queen.

>> How dare he?

This [ __ ] was so considerate the whole

movie. Came back. She had popcorn and

everything.

YO, STOP SAYING THAT YOU SEEN ME DO

THAT. I NEVER DID THAT. ANYWAYS,

uh time to pay some bills. It's time for

my favorite part of the show.

>> Your phone was on 6%. It's on 1%.

>> Living dangerous.

>> Your phone's on 1% at noon.

>> Yeah,

>> my [ __ ] do that a lot.

>> Yeah, I didn't uh get to charge this

overnight.

>> You don't plug it in the car.

>> You don't plug your phone in.

>> I took a Uber here.

>> You don't plug that in.

>> The question still remains the same.

What about I I didn't have no access to

one in this particular Uber.

>> What about when you go to bed?

>> At home though?

>> Normally at night I over I charge but

last night I sometimes forget.

>> Yeah. I was out so late watching this

movie for work that I didn't get a

chance to to do it.

>> So you phone dying too

>> often.

>> Yeah.

>> This [ __ ] phone always die. Is phone

die mid combo and he won't call you

back.

>> That's just ish.

>> I don't be charging my [ __ ] So

>> yeah. So I

>> you see every time he see me when he say

yo yo let me get your charger. I feel

like that's another one of those things

that men can't do. Your phone shouldn't

hit below 10%.

>> I also don't like to unless you're at

home. I let my [ __ ] go dead at home.

>> You got to let it die.

>> At home, you do what you want.

>> Why you do that?

>> Sometimes you got to let it die, right?

>> You got to let it die sometime.

>> I don't get it.

>> Certain hours.

>> You trying to say you make sure you

don't get no phone calls you don't want.

>> So I get phone calls during the pop.

>> Listen, listen. Tomato tomato, bro. I

don't know when when you get

>> that's not what

>> Never mind.

>> Stop doing it for your man.

>> I don't even know what that means.

>> Flip side when he shoot.

>> It's all right. Tag team.

>> When flip shoot at y'all. I'm on his

side.

>> Don't I feel weak? You need a [ __ ] help

to help.

>> I want to help. You just be saying

Captain Pom Pom. It's just a

coincidence.

>> I'm helping. I'm a help, right? But

don't ask why I help him.

>> As a strong man, don't you feel weak

that you have to depend on this [ __ ]

coming to save you? A lot of times I

guess who need

a question. Mark always jump in and save

ever since that flat earth fight they

had.

>> I guess you trying to push a narrative

to your flunkies. I know it's cool. I

don't need no.

So what was happening before Mark?

>> I just got here.

>> What? What was happening before Mark?

>> When I was airing everybody else,

>> [ __ ] I knew you talking about I didn't

know you thought the earth was flat

before Mark got here.

>> I didn't need no help. I'm talking about

I didn't need no help before Mark got

here.

>> We wasn't talking about flat earth.

>> We talked about everything else. And I

love you a lot more than Mark. So when

you be saying stupid [ __ ] let it rock,

[ __ ] You my man. Mark wanted. He But

then he felt bad. So now he catered to

you like one of them Sally Struggles

kids for 69 cent a month

>> again. Again pushing your I don't need

nobody to hold me.

>> Look out. Y'all had a a riff sense.

Y'all had a tiff since me and Mark

argued over capitalism and every other

thing.

>> That was no argument. Keep pushing your

argument. It was a gentle debate. It was

very gentle. Very flat earth was so we

had an argument over flat earth.

>> We had a you had an argument over flat

earth WAS DEBATING GENTLY. OH, I let you

get the [ __ ] out of here.

>> So say tricky words. You done swallowed

your tongue.

>> [ __ ] talking about [ __ ]

>> Let me tell you something. You know that

I'm ready. I'm ready for THAT [ __ ] AND

I'M READY FOR YOU.

>> YOU ALWAYS end Mark. [ __ ] WE'LL LOOK AT

MARK LIKE SOME TYPE OF GUY LIKE YOU.

[ __ ] WE'LL END THIS I don't ass kiss

[ __ ] THAT'S YOUR TAP DANCING.

>> SAY IT AGAIN. WE'LL END Mark [ __ ] in

front of you,

>> [ __ ] Look, you want us to end them.